Hey

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Hey

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Dear Participants, The good news is that there is nothing much to prepare for in LR, & this is also precisely the bad news. A sprinkling of common sense would be our strategy. In this framework, we will develop an overview of standard caselets & how to quickly solve them. Feel free to shoot all your LR related doubts. The LR framework has already been mailed to yesterday's participants. New participants, ping your email id's to get it.

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Then how to boost this up section as I am scoring very low marks...

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yes.. please suggest

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@Souvik get to know all the standard type of questions & how to solve them. In all probability questions in the exam are just a variant of them.

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jyo.narula@gmail.com

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So I request you to start from the start. Types of possible questions themes and difficulty level

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can you suggest some types of possible qtns that are imp?

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and wld help us improve our lr logics

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@all in the doc, i have categorized questions into four major categories & have provided a structured approach to solve each of them. The most common types are Type 1: Data Sets Matching & Type 4: Seating Arrangement Questions

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please mail me the doc

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anuja.mundada@gmail.com

02:35 PM

From where I can get the document?

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bosco.sylvester@gmail.com

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please send di framework as well

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vaisakhss91@yahoo.in

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pankajmulla92@gmail.com

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I am facing problem with questions having 3 different sets of data please suggest some technique to tacle those

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@Aman : Do you any special strategy to solve table and pie chart based questions?

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For ex question having 6 persons 6 different proffession and working in 6 different companies

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@all I have mailed you all

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got the mail

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are cubes an important set???

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@pankaj This kind of question can not be solved with your classical tick/cross matrix. For this you need to create multiple parial rows in the first instance. Then reconcile them to get your final table.

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@pankaj diagrammatic representation of how to do it, is in the doc

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Ok

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Will look into it thanks

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@bosco Yes cube based questions are also important, do prepare them

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Hi Aman, Could you mail me also @shreyashgupta09@gmai.com

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last year, what were the types of lr??

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Hi Aman, will you mail me too: jagtapsachin757@gmail.com

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@Souvik in DI there is no magic bullet, you gotta do the painstaking calculations. But yes you can increase your speed & efficacy by knowing how the different data charts are linked and having a good command over basic quant. I have outlined this in the DI Framework that I sent yesterday

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hey.. can you mail me the di framework?

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jyo.narula@gmail.com

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While giving mocks, i am able to solve atleast 2sets of LR and 1 set of DI only when the LR set are of simple 2-3 variable arrangement and DI is of simple calculation based

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@all I have mailed the framework to the first few email-id's I got. For the rest I will mail it at 9o clock

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Thanks

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okay

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While giving mocks, i am able to solve atleast 2sets of LR and 1 set of DI only when the LR set are of simple 2-3 variable arrangement and DI is of simple calculation based, Is it enough to score atleast 90%ile in this section? Becasue no matter how much i practice i am not able to increase my efficiency in this

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ch92amit@gmail.com....please do mail on this id too. Thanks :)

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please mail @ tom.ju.2601@gmail.com

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@Shreyash if you are able to solve LR sets of 2-3 variable arrangements comfortably then it shows that you are good at logic application. For the LR sets having more number of arrangements, yo just need to structure your problem solving with better representation of data on your sheet as you interpret clues. For instance in data set matching & seating arrangements beyond 3 data variables, we need a very methodical process to put the clues on our sheet. I have outlined the approach that I used to use when variables got large in the do. Do refer it. All the best !!

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And What you think, as per the pattern disclosed by IIMB, Which type of LR and DI will have max. certainty to come

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Hi Aman.. Pls mail me the framework at sp2894@gmail.com. Thanks!

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@Aman 3 DI sets and 1-2 LR sets in an hour. Good enough?

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@ all some finer points while solving LR: @ all some finer points to keep in my mind while doing LR: @ all some finer points to keep in mind while doing LR: i. Don’t solve the LR caselets upfront. For first 10 minutes or so, do the other question to score some quick wins and develop confidence. ii. Then after 10 minutes or so skim thorough the caselets and see which ones are you familiar with. Solve the doable ones quickly to ramp up speed. iii. Do the rest of the paper & return to the tougher caselets in the end. iv. If you get stuck while solving a caselet, just leave the caselet then & there, no matter if you thought it was doable at first. At the end solve the caselet afresh without looking into your earlier calculations. A fresh look at the data sometime later works wonders. v. Always be methodical while solving caselets, never write full names & always use symbols. vi. Construct your own symbols for male, female, married, siblings etc. and stick to them in the examination hall. On the other hand, don’t create redundant symbols, use as few as possible to depict the maximum.

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@Suraaj That would be decent. But I would advise you not go in the examination hall with such a mindset. Your goal is to do the maximum number of questions in the requisite time. Probably the paper might turn up easy, and these many questions man not be enough. So go for the maximum :)

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Sir , could you please mail the frame work at rahul.chinthala1404@gmail.com

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I am also facing problem in games and tournament problem

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What will be better startegy to solve these?

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@Shreyash i would offer you the same advise as Suraaj. We shouldn't go in the examination hall with pre-conceived notions. Yes we shall intensively practice the type of questions in the mock paper, but CAT has historically been unpredictable with scant regard to topic weights & syllabus. So I would advise you to revise thoroughly before the D-Day across all topics.

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Hi! Please mail me both LR & DI.. ashikanakorath7@gmail.com

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@Aman Thanks :)

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somilasarbadhikary@gmail.com

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Hello Aman! Can you please mail the doc to nagarjuna.as17@gmail.com ?

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@pankaj in the games & tournament problem where we need to find which team played against whom, points won & so & so so forth. What I used to do was, first scan through the clues and find which clue offers the best information to start with. Generally its the clue with most concrete information. Then construct my first solution table out of it with team names on both horizontal & vertical axis. Then the next strongest clue was picked & if it led to more than two ways, I constructed one more table to depict the other probability. In my experience by the v or vi clue the wrong tables were eliminated and I was left with the right one. So the essence is do not try to fathom all the information in first go, solve it step by step.

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Thanks aman

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@all when confounded with multiple clue statements. Always begin solving with the most concrete clue. For example: Statement 1: They are exactly 2 guys between A&B , and one between B&C. Statement 2: A sits to the right of B, who is 6th from the right end. Other statements so on & so forth.

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So when I compare these two statements, Statement 2 is a better starting point, as I can precisely locate A & B in the seating arrangement 7 make one diagram, while in the first statement I would need to make 2 possible diagrams to start.

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@all will mail you all at 9 pm; ping your email id's here

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pankajmulla92@gmail.com

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Hi Aman Sir. Thank you so much for helping us.

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Shuklaabhigya@ymail.com

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@annanaya@all a non CAT related tip. Since most of you are going to join a B-school next year, you need to drop the habit of using Sir/Madam..or senior will make you do it in a not so good way :D I learned the hard way :P It is just first name :) All the Best !!

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Chetan1357@gmail.com Pls mail me the docs also

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Hi Aman, Can you please mail the doc to satyahari@hotmail.com .

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Please mail both Di and lr framework @ shuklaabhigya@ymail.com.. Thanx a lot aman

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That would be all for today. You all have my email-id, ping me back in case of any issues. We will pick up a different topic tomorrow. Give in your maximum this final week and the rewards in January will truly amaze you. Regards Aman P.S. Apologies for all the typos above, the input screen is really small.

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Thanks Aman

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Amitanshu26@gmail.com

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Please mail both DI and LR frameworks @ mohd.safdar14@gmail.com Thanks. :)

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please forward both di and lr framwork.. veenu23iitk@gmail.com

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Please forward both DI and LR frameworks - phanid99@gmail.com Thanks!

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Can someone mail me the framework for LR&Di plz! Email-Id- ohripranav@gmail.com TIA

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Hi Aman.Email id :hellyshah17@gmail.com

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Thanks!

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Please forward on my email id too. :)

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Hi Aman sir .Email id : akshay0318@gmail.com please forward me important documents to my mail id :)

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Could you pease forward the frameworks to my Id. mubeen1992@gmail.com ; Thanks!

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