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How To Market Music in India

What really goes into building a music brand? Ask Saloni! Saloni Handa is the brand manager at Viacom 18, in one of the world's most popular music channels - VH1. She helms India's most popular music festival - VH1 Supersonic. Chat with her to understand the toil behind building a non-filmy music brand in Bollywood-obsessed India and how she collaborates with other brands in the process.

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Saloni Handa
Sep 21
10:00 PM

Sep 21
11:00 PM
  • Profile Picture Miti Vaidya

    Hi everyone, the chat will start soon. Please feel free to post your questions for Saloni.

    04:28 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Thanks Miti

    04:30 PM

  • Profile Picture Miti Vaidya

    Saloni, in marketing we've learnt quite a bit about STP. For a music festival brand, I'm curious how you put this in practice. For instance, how do you segment your market? What parameters?

    04:34 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    As a brand planner, STP used to be my bread and butter. FMCG clients would measure and remeasure these matrices

    04:36 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    But when it comes to the music industry, you need to look at your product a bit differently

    04:36 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    For E.g - With Vh1 Supersonic, our natural starting point would be EDM enthusiasts.

    04:37 PM

  • Profile Picture Ankit Doshi

    Hi Saloni, Thanks for doing this.

    04:38 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    But with music, it's important to keep in mind that half the junta who could be categorized in the English music/Dance music segment are also the ones who 'll start craving hardcore Bollywood after a few drinks :P

    04:39 PM

  • Profile Picture Ankit Doshi

    What are the trends that excite you in music consumption especially in relation to Feativals and events

    04:39 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Hi Ankit. When it comes to music festivals & events specifically - there are two important things I'd normally look at. The most important would be musical tastes and inclinations. So eg- when I started off with music, EDM was the flavor of the month, and our endeavor would be to bring tried and tested artists while balancing them with new sounds that our audience would like to explore. Now days EDM is giving way to more multi genre interests, so it's important to look outside the purview of only dance music

    04:42 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    The second important thing is the lifestyle around music festivals

    04:43 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    It's important to know how your audience goes about making plans to go to a festival. Logic says fans would want to book tickets in advance when prices are low - but the reality is making out of town plans to go to a music festival involves a lot of bargaining - with parents, with friends, taking leaves, managing a budget etc

    04:44 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    So it's important to project the right message about your event - apart from just the music aspect of things

    04:45 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    Hi Saloni. I wanted to know more about the business model of a music fest. What are its sources of revenue and how does it hence co-ordinate its sales and marketing efforts. Also, why does a TV channel get into events?

    04:46 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Hi Kunj. Excellent question!

    04:46 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    So for a music festival in India, ticket sales don't always cover the costs, specially with the 'jugaad' that goes into arranging for tickets! Revenue wise sponsors & media partners are critical for you to be able to do justice to the scale of investments required

    04:48 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    For a broadcast channel, a music festival a) is an excellent platform to bring our product alive and have consumers interacting directly with the brand b) coming back to your question of revenue - it becomes an excellent differentiation in the value you provide to artists, sponsors and your channel audiences

    04:50 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    The market today is still very unorganized and you have a multiude of people jumping onto the bandwagon. A TV channel lends credibility both for the audience and investors - and lends itself to multiple content creation opportunities

    04:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    Thanks. Can you tell us how much the indie music scene is now coming into mainstream? Are there more brands that are exploring this scene today?

    04:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Ankit Doshi

    Which demographic is the most important for channels like yours? And do they have the purchasing power

    04:53 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Another great insight about the music industry Kunj

    04:54 PM

  • Profile Picture Nidhi Malkan

    Hi Saloni

    04:54 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Indie music is a big untapped market that a lot of brands are trying to explore.

    04:54 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    However an important aspect to keep in mind when exploring/developing a new market is that it often requires a longer gestation period, where you're primarily investing

    04:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Hi N idhi

    04:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Nidhi Malkan

    What is the scope of Metal and Rock bands and artists like in the Indian scenario? How feasible is it to market such bands in India and what would be the right approach for the same?

    04:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Hi Nidhi

    04:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    What is this obsession that alcohol companies have for being associated with music?

    04:57 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    When it comes to Indian bands, we've always had a very vibrant scene - both in the Indie space and homegrown metal/rock bands. But developing artists takes a lot of time and investment - something that the digital space is currently helping ease. Given the immense growth and interest of homegrown music, there's never been a better time to explore. Look at 'The Stage' - a few years ago we had almost no representation of English singers in this country. But market demands can influence trends and the important thing is to be able to reach out to your audience and stick it out

    05:00 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    What better mix than good music and good alcohol Kunj? :)

    05:00 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    From a business point of view the advertising restrictions on alcohol companies make music festivals one of the few feasible touchpoints for these brands. But it's important to note that even from a consumer POV, alcohol brand integrations in a music space are naturally very well received compared to other products

    05:02 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Brand Integrations with experiential events are tricky. Advertising needs need to be balanced well with the consumer environment. Too much rigidity about a brand and brand guidelines and an advertiser sticks out like a sore thumb - ruining the vibe for its audience

    05:04 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Events and music festivals specifically - require integrations and associations that are relaxed and add to the vibe.

    05:05 PM

  • Profile Picture Nidhi Malkan

    Saloni, thank you for your response. I had another question. These days, "artists" like Dhinchak Pooja and any other so called artists get their two mins of fame by being viral on social media but really talented artists may not even be discovered ever. So is there any marketing formula that actually really talented budding artists can employ to get recognised?

    05:05 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    Tell us about some cool brand integrations you have executed with supersonic

    05:06 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Nidhi - On one hand it's easy to dismiss 'artists' like Dhinchak Pooja, and that wouldn't be unfair - Cringe pop can only be a fad and they can never build themselves as lasting brands. But on the other hand, it's also important to look at what makes these people stand out and get noticed. What makes you share something - in this cluttered environment they are managing to differentiate themselves by the world something that's not been heard before. Perhaps they have the self awareness to know that if they can't make something truly remarkable, they can swing to the other end and create something truly ridiculous - either way, they've learnt to stand out. The key lies in staying away from winning formulas and pushing the envelope

    05:10 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Kunj - A fun brand like Vh1 Supersonic is a delight when it comes to brand integrations. A lot of the best ones have been for alcohol. But going beyond that, every brand that speaks to the youth has immense potential to integrate themselves in fun, interesting ways. Eg- Last year Fastrack launched a 'Join the Supercrew' campaign with Vh1 Supersonic. No force fitting of watches or sunglasses, just an excellent opportunity for their audience to experience something they're truly passionate about

    05:14 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Quikr came on board with us to create an online 'Superstore' where you can bid for experiences at Supersonic - literally stuff that money cannot buy

    05:15 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Complete honesty though - one of my most fun moments has been getting a Banana Installation made for a condom company. Just explaining the concept to our legal team was out of this world

    05:16 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    And the audience selfies were priceless :D

    05:17 PM

  • Profile Picture Miti Vaidya

    Lol :D

    05:17 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    But why this career choice, Saloni? Handling a niche brand would limit your options, right? What possibilities are you looking at after this experience?

    05:19 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Co-creation is another interesting concept that should be applied at events. Eg - Liquor brands naturally lend themselves to music festivals - and a co-created drink is something that the audience will love. But extend that thought to brands like mobile phones - there's a limit to how many selfies you can ask your audience to take. Mobile charging lockers for your audience displays an astute understanding of a consumer journey and integrates you in the perfect space for your partners

    05:20 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Hi Kunj. Yes, that's one way of looking at niche brands - they can be limiting in a sense. Another perspective however is that you have niche experience that not many others have. Specializing has its own rewards - at the least I'm guaranteed cool jobs and free gig passes!

    05:22 PM

  • Profile Picture Miti Vaidya

    What advice would you give to someone who wants to get into the business side of music? What other options does one have besides mba to get there?

    05:23 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    As an MBA in the music industry, I'd say you'd be a minority. It's an industry filled with passionate people who've not followed a set path, they've made their way through by sticking to doing what they love. You don't see a lot of placement opportunities or job posts in this industry

    05:26 PM

  • Profile Picture Pranav Chopra

    On the lighter side of things, what are the perks of the job

    05:26 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    My key advice would be find people who're doing something you love and admire, and just start working with them - in any capacity - it doesn't matter. You'll get to learn a lot and you'll eventually find something that suits you to a tee

    05:27 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Pranav - Hahaha. That's something best kept under wraps

    05:28 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    But it's a fun job for sure. On one hand it's not a very established territory, so you get to try a lot of fun things. And at the end of the day, you get to throw awesome parties

    05:29 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    And you always get the best seats in the house!

    05:29 PM

  • Profile Picture Miti Vaidya

    Saloni, thank you so much for making time to do this chat. Amazing insights and fun at the same time :)

    05:30 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Thanks a lot Miti, I had a great time!

    05:30 PM

  • Profile Picture Kunj Sanghvi

    Thanks Saloni :)

    05:30 PM

  • Profile Picture Saloni Handa

    Thanks Kunj, great questions!

    05:31 PM

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