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Rules to maximize LRDI and VA scores in CAT 2016

Do you want to improve accuracy in LR? Do you know which questions to attempt in VA based on your strength? Do you know how to manage and minimize the time required for DI? Join today's Live Chat with Noel Roychoudhary currently studying in IIM Kozhikode who will answer all your questions related to LRDI and VA.

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Noel Roychoudhury
Nov 14
07:00 PM

Nov 14
08:00 PM
  • Profile Picture Shridhar Patil

    which are the most important areas to cover up/revise in DI LR in the next 20days..?

    01:28 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    How to maximize scores in LRDI? Try solving 3 LR and 3 DI sets per day for the remaining days. On the first day, take as much time as possible for solving the sets but do not see the solution unless you have tried for around 30-40 mins to solve a single set. After that see the solutions and imbibe any techniques or rules to solve the sets. DO the sets again after applying these new learnings. Repeat the same exercise for 3 days at least. Fourth day onwards, proceed to minimize the time, actually by now if you have already learnt to apply the tips and tricks which you picked up in the last few days, you will see a notable time minimization without having to rush through the questions. Also for DI despite the fact that a calculator is present onscreen, it is better if you know fast calculation methods, however if you don’t know, at least for the remaining days learn your tables till 30 well, learn the cube values and square values of numbers till 30, and also learn fast calculation methods of percentages and proportions. That will definitely come in handy on your D day.

    01:32 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    Hope this helps you Shridhar. :)

    01:33 PM

  • Profile Picture Shantharam Sanaka

    what according to you is the optimal avg time per a set in DILR?

    01:35 PM

  • Profile Picture Sanjay Suresh

    Hello. When I look at the scores of mock toppers, I notice that many of them score almost close to 100% in LIDR. I cannot understand how that is possible. While I struggle to complete 5/8 sets, they complete all with 100% accuracy. What are they doing differently? Will just repeated practice give this kind of advantage?

    01:35 PM

  • Profile Picture Harsh Agarwal

    Hi Noel. DILR sections has been my weakest of all since time immemorial. I face problem in set selection. Also, my speed is relatively slow.

    01:35 PM

  • Profile Picture Karthik Perumal

    Hi Noel, Could you please share your strategy in choosing right RC passages. I often end up choosing difficult ones, which affects my accuracy. Thanks

    01:38 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Shantharam - depends on the number of sets there are. generally 8 minutes for a moderately difficult DILR set should be targetted @Sanjay - LRDI scores can be maximized only by sufficient practice and for the time that is left, you can try to maximize your scores using the approach I told just now. @Sanjay, Harsh - Try solving 3 LR and 3 DI sets per day for the remaining days. On the first day, take as much time as possible for solving the sets but do not see the solution unless you have tried for around 30-40 mins to solve a single set. After that see the solutions and imbibe any techniques or rules to solve the sets. DO the sets again after applying these new learnings. Repeat the same exercise for 3 days at least. Fourth day onwards, proceed to minimize the time, actually by now if you have already learnt to apply the tips and tricks which you picked up in the last few days, you will see a notable time minimization without having to rush through the questions. Also for DI despite the fact that a calculator is present onscreen, it is better if you know fast calculation methods, however if you don’t know, at least for the remaining days learn your tables till 30 well, learn the cube values and square values of numbers till 30, and also learn fast calculation methods of percentages and proportions. That will definitely come in handy on your D day. @Karthik - RC • Attempt those RCs whose content you are familiar with – for example if you are not comfortable with socio-political topics, go ahead and skip the RC • Attempt those question types which you are confident about – for example if you are not comfortable with inferential type questions, be brave enough to leave the same If you need more info, I will send you the detailed content of 12th, the day I covered RC score maximization scores. Share your mail id for the same.

    01:40 PM

  • Profile Picture Shridhar Patil

    Thanks a lot Noel..:) will try this approach for the remaining days..!

    01:42 PM

  • Profile Picture Karthik Perumal

    Thanks a lot Noel... My email id karthik296996@gmail.com.

    01:44 PM

  • Profile Picture Shantharam Sanaka

    Thank you, could you send the RC score maximization to me also. Here's my e-mail: shantharam1@gmail.com

    01:44 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    Sure

    01:44 PM

  • Profile Picture Shridhar Patil

    shridharptl.99@gmail.com please mark a copy to me also! thanks a lot!

    01:45 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    sure

    01:46 PM

  • Profile Picture subham charan

    hey..i am able to solve the di sets when i have abundant time but under time constraints i barely manage to solve a few like 2...i want to maximize speed ...plus sometimes in mocks the sets are pretty long ( maybe only for me) so when should i leave a set and move forward?

    01:46 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    Please focus on faster calculation methods and practice solving DI sets by giving sectional tests. The following should help you. Try solving 3 LR and 3 DI sets per day for the remaining days. On the first day, take as much time as possible for solving the sets but do not see the solution unless you have tried for around 30-40 mins to solve a single set. After that see the solutions and imbibe any techniques or rules to solve the sets. DO the sets again after applying these new learnings. Repeat the same exercise for 3 days at least. Fourth day onwards, proceed to minimize the time, actually by now if you have already learnt to apply the tips and tricks which you picked up in the last few days, you will see a notable time minimization without having to rush through the questions. Also for DI despite the fact that a calculator is present onscreen, it is better if you know fast calculation methods, however if you don’t know, at least for the remaining days learn your tables till 30 well, learn the cube values and square values of numbers till 30, and also learn fast calculation methods of percentages and proportions. That will definitely come in handy on your D day.

    01:48 PM

  • Profile Picture Sanjay Suresh

    Thanks Noel. Please send me the mail regarding RC: sanjay.jhb93@gmai.com

    01:49 PM

  • Profile Picture Sanjay Suresh

    Correction: sanjay.jhb93@gmail.com

    01:49 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    sure

    01:49 PM

  • Profile Picture Sanjay Suresh

    What sort of difficulty level can we expect from this section for CAT 2016?

    01:50 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    That can never be predicted.

    01:50 PM

  • Profile Picture Akanksha Dangi

    Hello

    01:51 PM

  • Profile Picture Akanksha Dangi

    I have been scoring horribly bad in English section

    01:51 PM

  • Profile Picture Akanksha Dangi

    It goes like 99.95 LRDI, 99.98 QA and 80.71 VARC

    01:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Debangshu Biswas

    Hi Noel, Could you please send me the strategies to follow for quant. I missed the other session.Email : debangshubiswas25@gmail.com

    01:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Akanksha Dangi

    What can I do to improve my accuracy in VARC and what strategy should be followed while attempting this section?

    01:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Dipti Mundhra

    Could you give some suggestions regarding the Verbal section. I am scoring consistently in 30s in CL mocks. Few days back I even went though all CL's Smart cat Cracker videos but nothing seems to be a lot of help. Also I practice 2-3 RCs a day. Some how accuracy is a problem. Could you give some suggestions to increase accuracy?

    01:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Karthik Perumal

    How important is solving Past CAT papers for DI LR. Is this the right time to do that ??

    01:52 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Akanksha : VA-RC paper: How to maximize scores General Guidelines • Do not attempt question types you are not familiar with • Read the questions along with the answer choices except in RC questions • In questions from Sentence Correction, Antonyms, Synonyms, leave the questions if you are in doubt. Attempt Sequence Go through the VA questions in round 1 and skim through the RCs and the questions from RCs (not the answer choices) to understand the topics and types. The order is as follows: 1. Vocab based questions 2. Grammar based questions 3. Logic based questions 4. Mark RCs which you will attempt along with the question types Once you have done this, start with the RC questions you have marked and start solving them. Only after you have done this, proceed to the skipped RC passages with factual questions. If you succeed in attempting those, proceed to the skipped VA questions and once you have done that proceed to the unattempt questions in RC. RC • Attempt those RCs whose content you are familiar with – for example if you are not comfortable with socio-political topics, go ahead and skip the RC • Attempt those question types which you are confident about – for example if you are not comfortable with inferential type questions, be brave enough to leave the same VA When it comes to knowledge based questions based on vocabulary, antonyms and synonyms, these are the least time consuming. So if you are familiar with a word, you mark the answer, if you are not, simply skip the question. AVOID GUESSWORK. • Sentence Correction - Mostly knowledge based as you need to know the rule of grammar to be applied. If you are not comfortable with grammar, skip this question. AVOID GUESSWORK. • Sentence Completion – Read the question 2-3 times if more than one blank is there. Solve using elimination of choices based on context. • Para-jumbles – Identify the opening or closing statements or a pair of sequential logically linked statements. Elimination of choices works great in solving these questions. • Critical Reasoning and Para Completion – Employ of elimination of choices and logical flow to solve these questions Hope this helps. :) All the best!

    01:53 PM

  • Profile Picture Akanksha Dangi

    Some how accuracy is a problem. Could you give some suggestions to increase accuracy?

    01:54 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Dipti : For RC I can share the content of my session, see if that helps you. For overall score maximization of VA-RC section, please follow my answer to Akanksha. @Karthik - If you are confident with LRDI sets , you need not do those. However if you feel you can improve, go ahead. You can solve any LRDI set you lay your hands on.

    01:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Dipti Mundhra

    Yes. Please share, it would be of help. My email Id is dipti_mundhra@yahoo.com

    01:56 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Akanksha - In a VA paper accuracy aspect will come only in the logic based questions. Rest are either knowledge based or grammar based. So try giving some more time in brushing up your basics of Para Jumbles, Para Completion, Critical Reasoning etc. type questions. Also, if you are hurrying through your paper, your accuracy will be hampered. So try to relax while taking your mocks. Hope this helps. :)

    01:59 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    Hi Noel, I generally do all the RCs first in 40-45 min and do VA in last 15-20 min. Is my strategy good?

    01:59 PM

  • Profile Picture Sanjay Suresh

    With VA being comparatively more difficult than RC, it seems better to do RC first and invest time in that.

    02:00 PM

  • Profile Picture Raman Dogra

    Hi Noel, For VA/RC My Attempt is like RC which i am sure to be taken and then VA Portion.In Round 2 Again I pick RCs whih are left. But Problem is,in Round 2 Time is bare minimum left and I can hardly attempt 1-2 odd ques from new RC.Please share how to improve the strategy

    02:01 PM

  • Profile Picture Sai Reddy

    Good evening. I have a tendency to attempt all the questions in RCs irrespective of the difficulty level. Because of this my accuracy is taking a big toll. Please let me know how can i avoid this tendency and improve my accuracy.

    02:01 PM

  • Profile Picture Kainat Jamadar

    Hi Noel can you please share RC details with me at krj_93@yahoo.com

    02:02 PM

  • Profile Picture Mathi Vathanan

    I'm just well in rc passages but not well in jumbled sentences.

    02:03 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Saideep, Sanjay - I generally used to take knowledge based VA questions first, followed by logic based questions and easier RC passages and question types in my first round. However if your respective strategies have succeeded in fetching you desired scores, do go ahead with the same.

    02:04 PM

  • Profile Picture Dilip Kumarvignesh

    HI Noel . Can you suggest any strategies for Reasoning Based Puzzles in LR/DI

    02:05 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Raman - In round 1 and skim through the RCs and the questions from RCs to understand the topics and types. Mark RCs which you will attempt along with the question types. Once you have done this, start with the RC questions you have marked and start solving them. Only after you have done this, proceed to the skipped RC passages with factual questions. If you succeed in attempting those proceed to the unattempt questions in RC .• Attempt those RCs whose content you are familiar with – for example if you are not comfortable with socio-political topics, go ahead and skip the RC • Attempt those question types which you are confident about – for example if you are not comfortable with inferential type questions, be brave enough to leave the same

    02:06 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    Sai: • Attempt those RCs whose content you are familiar with – for example if you are not comfortable with socio-political topics, go ahead and skip the RC • Attempt those question types which you are confident about – for example if you are not comfortable with inferential type questions, be brave enough to leave the same

    02:07 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @kainat - sure @mathi - Identify the opening or closing statements or a pair of sequential logically linked statements. Elimination of choices works great in solving these questions. Solve a lot of para-jumbles from basic materials using this technique. You are bound to improve. @Dilip - No strategy for LRDI set apart from the fact that you are lucky to know you are not comfortable with a certain type of LRDI sets, go ahead and solve the type from your basic materials on an extensive and time constrained basis for the remaining days.

    02:10 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    Like you have shared tips and guidelines for solving VA-RC paper, it will be very helpful if you can share the same for LR-DI also :)

    02:12 PM

  • Profile Picture Dilip Kumarvignesh

    Can you please share the Content For improving RC . Email Id is dilipkumarvignesh@gmail.com . Thank you

    02:12 PM

  • Profile Picture Rosie Maria

    Hi, noel roychoudhury, can u please share the content for improving RC, my mail-id is dholaniriya52@gmail.com. Thank you:)

    02:15 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Saideep - for LRDI, there are no such basic tips that I know of, I personally felt practice was the key @Dilip, Rosie - Sure

    02:16 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Saideep :Also do not make any assumptions while solving LRDI sets, more often than not, such assumptions will take you to the wrong answer. Also, do not hesitate to leave a question if you feel it is taking you more time. For DI whenever you are looking at the data given, look at it carefully and analyze it. Mostly, you need to calculate growth rates, you are asked about the trends etc, which can be solved sometimes even without calculating only if you have analyzed the data correctly while reading the question. In DI again you can read the questions prior to looking at the data sets, sometimes that helps in mentally preparing you for the type of analysis and calculation you need to do. Hope this helps. :)

    02:21 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    Ohkay, Thanks for the tips. I will keep them in my mind while solving the LR-DI section. :)

    02:24 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    I'm generally inclined more towards DI questons rather than LR questions. I only go for LR questions if they are only easy to solve. Is my strategy good here

    02:27 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    I prefer DI questions as they might take more time but they generally gives you more accuracy

    02:28 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Saideep, try looking at the LR sets once at least to ensure you are not missing on easier questions at the expense of time. If you are already doing so and solving DI sets because of your comfort, go ahead! :)

    02:28 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    okay, thanks :)

    02:29 PM

  • Profile Picture Lokesh Sahu

    Gud eve Noel mam.. Rc sect. has been my prob. Any tips & kindly do share content Mail - lokeshsahu_30@yahoo.com

    02:31 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @lokesh - Sure

    02:32 PM

  • Profile Picture Saideep Choudhary

    Okay, I will be leaving now. Thank you Noel for your precious tips and valuable time. Looking forward on using those tips in my preparation.

    02:33 PM

  • Profile Picture Bhasker Lahiri

    Gud evening Noel. I want to improve the grammatical aspect of sentence formation and speed of reading while not compromising on understanding. Kindly help

    02:34 PM

  • Profile Picture Sharma Annanya

    Thank you Noel for the tips. Can you please email me the copy as well annanya21august@gmail.com

    02:34 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    @Bhasker - you can help these guys better than me, kindly oblige! :) @Annanya - sure!

    02:36 PM

  • Profile Picture Sharma Annanya

    I solve LR questions very easily and quickly but DI takes a toll on me. I have practised a lot but still I get stuck on Tournaments and Network based questions. Any suggestions on how to ace DI.

    02:43 PM

  • Profile Picture Tanu Priya

    Earlier I was able to score avg score in verbal section atleast but as the level of mocks improved I started getting more and more negative.How to improve parajumbles and assumption and inference based questions.

    02:46 PM

  • Profile Picture Tanu Priya

    I actually missed the live chat .@Annanya can u fwd me the mail too?

    02:51 PM

  • Profile Picture Tanu Priya

    priya.tanu93@gmail.com

    02:51 PM

  • Profile Picture Sandeep Kr

    please send me also sandeepk3387@gmail.com

    03:46 PM

  • Profile Picture Noel Roychoudhury

    For whosoever missed today's chat, here's the content: VA-RC paper: How to maximize scores General Guidelines • Do not attempt question types you are not familiar with • Read the questions along with the answer choices except in RC questions • In questions from Sentence Correction, Antonyms, Synonyms, leave the questions if you are in doubt. Attempt Sequence Go through the VA questions in round 1 and skim through the RCs and the questions from RCs (not the answer choices) to understand the topics and types. The order is as follows: 1. Vocab based questions 2. Grammar based questions 3. Logic based questions 4. Mark RCs which you will attempt along with the question types Once you have done this, start with the RC questions you have marked and start solving them. Only after you have done this, proceed to the skipped RC passages with factual questions. If you succeed in attempting those, proceed to the skipped VA questions and once you have done that proceed to the unattempt questions in RC. RC • Attempt those RCs whose content you are familiar with – for example if you are not comfortable with socio-political topics, go ahead and skip the RC • Attempt those question types which you are confident about – for example if you are not comfortable with inferential type questions, be brave enough to leave the same VA When it comes to knowledge based questions based on vocabulary, antonyms and synonyms, these are the least time consuming. So if you are familiar with a word, you mark the answer, if you are not, simply skip the question. AVOID GUESSWORK. • Sentence Correction - Mostly knowledge based as you need to know the rule of grammar to be applied. If you are not comfortable with grammar, skip this question. AVOID GUESSWORK. • Sentence Completion – Read the question 2-3 times if more than one blank is there. Solve using elimination of choices based on context. • Para-jumbles – Identify the opening or closing statements or a pair of sequential logically linked statements. Elimination of choices works great in solving these questions. • Critical Reasoning and Para Completion – Employ of elimination of choices and logical flow to solve these questions How to identify your strength and weakness? By now you have taken a number of mock test. Sit with all those one day and do the following: Take a pen and paper and draw two columns – Column 1 which will have your topics and question types in which your accuracy is poor or the ones which you are not capable of understanding -WEAKNESS Column 2 will have topics and question types which are able to attempt correctly most of the time – STRENGTH How to maximize scores based on strength and weaknesses? In your first round of attempts, solve those questions in Column 2 which you can solve in 60-90 secs. In your second round of attempts solve those questions in Column 2 which you can solve in 90-180 secs. In your third round of attempts solve the questions in Column 3 How to maximize scores in LRDI? Try solving 3 LR and 3 DI sets per day for the remaining days. On the first day, take as much time as possible for solving the sets but do not see the solution unless you have tried for around 30-40 mins to solve a single set. After that see the solutions and imbibe any techniques or rules to solve the sets. DO the sets again after applying these new learnings. Repeat the same exercise for 3 days at least. Fourth day onwards, proceed to minimize the time, actually by now if you have already learnt to apply the tips and tricks which you picked up in the last few days, you will see a notable time minimization without having to rush through the questions. Also for DI despite the fact that a calculator is present onscreen, it is better if you know fast calculation methods, however if you don’t know, at least for the remaining days learn your tables till 30 well, learn the cube values and square values of numbers till 30, and also learn fast calculation methods of percentages and proportions. That will definitely come in handy on your D day. Also do not make any assumptions while solving LRDI sets, more often than not, such assumptions will take you to the wrong answer. Also, do not hesitate to leave a question if you feel it is taking you more time. For DI whenever you are looking at the data given, look at it carefully and analyze it. Mostly, you need to calculate growth rates, you are asked about the trends etc, which can be solved sometimes even without calculating only if you have analyzed the data correctly while reading the question. In DI again you can read the questions prior to looking at the data sets, sometimes that helps in mentally preparing you for the type of analysis and calculation you need to do.

    04:05 PM

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